Oprah : Did you feel, Smokey Robinson said this about you, and so have many other people, that you were like an old soul in a little body.

Michael : I remember hearing that all the time when I was little. They used to call me a 45-years-old midget wherever I went, I just used to hear that and wherever I went .. just like when some people when you were little and you started to sing did you know you were that good? And I say I never thought about it, I just did it and it came out. I never thought about it really.

Oprah : So here you were, Michael Jackson, you all had hits, you all had so many hits, four hits in a row, and you were crying because you couldn't be like other kids.

Michael : Well, I loved show business and I still love show business, but then there are times you want to play and have some fun and that part did make me sad. I remember one time we were getting ready to go to South America and everything was packed up and in the car ready to go and I hid and I was crying because I really did not want to go. I wanted to play. I did not want to go.

Oprah : Were your brothers jealous of you when you started getting all the attention?

Michael : Not that I know of, no.

Oprah : You never felt a sense of jealousy?

Michael : Oh, let me think - no. No, I think they were always happy for me that I could do certain things, but I've never felt jealousy among them.

Oprah : Do you think they are jealous of you now?

Michael : I wouldn't think so. I don't think so, no.

Oprah : No. What's your relationship like with your family? Are you all close still?

Michael : I love my family very much. I wish I could see them a little more often than I do. But we understand because we're a show business family and we all work. We do have family day when we all get together, we pick a person's house, it might be Jermaine's house or Marlon's house or Tito's house and everyone will come together in fellowship and love each other and talk and catch up on who's doing what and....

Oprah : You weren't all upset about LaToya and LaToya's book and the things that LaToya has said about the family?

Michael : Well, I haven't read LaToya's book. I just know how to love my sister dearly, I love LaToya and I always will and I always see her as the happy, loving LaToya that I remember growing up with. So I couldn't completely answer on that.

Oprah : Do you feel that some of the things that she's been saying are true?

Michael : I couldn't answer Oprah, honestly I haven't read the book. That's the honest truth.

Oprah : Well, let's go back to when you were growing up and feeling all of this, well, I guess it's a sense of anguish, I guess, so there was no one for you to play with other than your brother's, you never had slumber parties?

Michael : Never.

Oprah : So I'm wondering for you, being this cute little boy who everybody adored and everybody who comes up to you they're pulling your cheeks and how cute, how adolescence going through that duck stage where everything's awkward, and I'm wondering when you started to go through adolescence having been this child superstar, was that a particularly difficult time for you?

Michael : Very. Very, very difficult, yes. Because I think every child star suffers through this period because you're not the cute and charming child that you were. You start to grow, and they want to keep you little forever.

Oprah : Who's they?

Michael : The public. And um, nature takes its course.

Oprah : It does?

Michael : Yes, and I had pimples so badly it used to make me so shy, I used not to look at myself, I'd hide my face in the dark, I wouldn't want to look in the mirror and my father teased me and I just hated it and I cried every day.

Oprah : Your father teased you about your pimples?

Michael : Yes and tell me I'm ugly.

Oprah : Your father would say that?

Michael : Yes he would. Sorry Joseph.

Oprah : What's your relationship like with him?

Michael : I love my father but I don't know him.

Oprah : Are you angry with him for doing that? I think that's pretty cruel actually.

Michael : Am I angry with him?

Oprah : Because adolescence is hard enough without a parent telling you that you're ugly.

Michael : Am I angry with him? Sometimes I do get angry. I don't know him the way I'd like to know him. My mother's wonderful. To me she's perfection. I just wish I could understand my father.

Oprah : And so let's talk about those teen years. Is that when you started to go inside yourself? Because obviously you haven't spoken to the world for 14 years. So you went inside, you became a recluse. Was it to protect yourself?

Michael : I felt there wasn't anything important for me to say and those were very sad, sad years for me.

Oprah : Why so sad? Because on stage you were performing, you were getting your Grammies. Why so sad?

Michael : Oh, there's a lot of sadness about my past and adolescence, about my father and all of those things.

Oprah : So he would tease you, make fun of